ruger sp101 trigger pull weight

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays! Small grips. I was wondering though, since I’m averse to dicking around with the springs on a defensive use weapon how much difference just polishing the internals would go towards improving the trigger. While brushed stainless steel is good for everyday abuse because it hides scratches, we’re not talking about a Viking’s battle axe anymore. Those times require five rounds of hell’s fury and fireballs directly injected into the offender’s groin at 1500 FPS. Very enjoyable and informative remarks here. I LOVE this gun! The others are folks like me. Among the women who come to my weekly clinic, I can’t remember one of them who owns such a gun and is actually happy to practice shooting it. he will not sell it to me. mamaliberty at rtconnect dot net – just replace at and dot with the appropriate symbols and eliminate the spaces. Buy what you want, but if you want the best, buy Ruger. I find revolvers being good for showing on the people on the RKBA fence how to shoot. I still shoot it weekly, and certainly with every class, so it is not being neglected. I have too many friends who’s frame cracked under the stress of shooting (usually right around the crane and with factory ammo). None of them want to buy a revolver once they have fired my XD compact 9mm, however. Way back there are revolvers. Clint’s enemies also had a habit of dropping dead the instant the bullets struck them, which might be a little optimistic for you and me. So, was the extra work I had done on the SP101 worth it and how much did it cost? double-action trigger pull. Mine is carried for woodswalking, and concealed carry because it carries so perfectly, and unobtrusively in both concealed and open belt carry. It can be improved with a "trigger job". LCR, Airweight S&W and so on. Grant Cunningham recommended Pachmayr grips for the SP101 and since he is "The Revolver Specialist" I knew he would not steer me wrong. Otherwise, just carry a double stack pistol in .357 SIG for the same power and a lot more capacity in the same size package. S&W sacrificed durability for the light weight alloys they’re using. I thought this is the way it should have come from the factory when I got it. BTW, Smith & Wesson told their customers to practice with .38 special for 4 decades until Ruger came out with the Security Six and they were forced to come up with a midsized revolver that could shoot .357 all day. Ergonomics Carry * * * * Gemini Customs offers other ways to pimp out this pistol. I have other options but I usually end up carrying the SP. Ruger manufacturers a Double Action Only version with a bobbed hammer in a 2.25 inch barrel so that is what I procured. Required fields are marked *. S&W’s, with their light weight scandium alloys, need extra care, maintenance, and inspection. You can polish a Ruger to make it as shiny as a S&W but no amount of labor will make a S&W as strong as a Ruger. Shooting, I did loose some accuracy at 15″ between the LCRx 3″ and the SP101 2.25″. The grip on the SP101 fits my hand much more comfortably. Let’s start with a look at the outer dimensions. Meanwhile, the folks at Ruger said, “Wait a second, this only holds five rounds. What the Ruger offers in indestructibility and price, Smith and Wesson make up for in trigger refinement, weight reduction, and overall finish. The trigger pull as it came out of the box was better than any S&W "J" frame pull I have ever experienced. Had a SP101 ever since they first hit the market (after that little hiccup with the early ones where the cylinder was too short for Federal ammo). The gun is easy to work on and a lighter trigger pull is easy to achieve. Its advantage is the ability to change the surface appearance fairly easily. (On a side note, the only time I ever had to defend the house was when someone tried to kick in my door and my ‘trusty’ hi power ‘wonder’ 9mm jammed when I chambered a round. That's $315 less than had I sent it to Gemini Customs and I had to wait about a week instead of five months to get it back. But the long trigger pull of this SP101 was lighter than expected at 10-lb. “…the best way I would recommend to carry this gun would be in a small pocket book, with an extremely long and strong strap…”. I’m a decent shot with a semi auto but when I pick up a revolver, suddenly I *suck*. It’s too heavy until you put a box of .357 through it, then your hands are grateful for the extra heft. It will take a couple hours to work your way from 400 grit to the Mother’ Mag compound, and that’s if you half-ass it like I did. I prefer the SP101's extra weight (compared to a S&W Model 36) when I'm shooting the gun. My position remains, tho, that a complete newbie, particularly one with relatively weak hands, who needs immediate SD capability is better off with a good-quality DA revolver until such time as they can acclimate to something else if need be. You will not find a softer shooting 2.25″ barreled .357 magnum pistol on the market. Once that’s done, the gun has been completely transformed from a baseball bat with nails in it to a 6′ Claymore. I cannot shoot the revolver (ANY revolver) as accurately and consistently as I do the 9mm and it’s not a matter of practice. I do not find the extra weight to be a hinderance in concealed carry, all day long carry. by not having the hammer to rely … I love to carry it TOO… and it is the only “jewelry” I ever wear. With properly sized and fitting grips you will still experience muzzle flip and a push into your hand but proper fit eliminates the slap-shot recoil pounding your middle finger and the web of your hand. 19s. In a self defense situation I wouldn’t hesitate to use DA at 10 or maybe 15 yards, but I’d probably go for SA passed that. That said, I have to agree with Leadbelly– if I’m going to carry something that heavy, it might as well be a 1911. Letting that thumb start upwards when the intent to fire comes can easily get them killed in a defensive situation. Yes we did. After doing a complete trigger job (no shims) smooth and polished the inside of the frame. They consequently added as much weight to the design as possible. Most of us would be fine with either though. Besides, if you’re carrying a five-shot revolver, odds are pretty good that you’re not Jack Bauer. The barrel on the S&W J frames isn't even 2 inches long. If you are new to shooting it’s easy to learn with and easy to shoot both .38 and .357. Sometimes it’s nice to carry a little class with some flash. My problem with my security six is that it makes all of my self defense .357 ammo the most fun to shoot. Sorry but this whole review is a misfire. When you compare the trigger pull of the GP-100 to other double-action revolvers the GP does very well. The OP discusses fairly complicated refinements to the Ruger, even referring us to the Internet for instructional videos. You can use the pistol as a club!”.’. The stock grip on the SP101 2.25″ fits my hand 100% better than the grip on the LCRx 3″. The very first target you said 21 yards. I find that my unmodified Rugers to be better than any Smiths I have used–would not trade a bushel basket full of Smiths for even one of my Rugers (well I might, could sell for lots of $ to buy even more Rugers). By robust, I mean nearly indestructible. It fits my hand. Over all, the revolver is much more difficult to shoot accurately without a lot of hand and arm strength, and a lot of practice. Did you review the gun from the factory or the version that’s “had some work done”? To achieve the status of work of art, here’s what you’ll need: Thanks for the writeup. 38 practice ammo feels like .22lr. It’s bulky as heck but I won’t be *carrying* it. The Mini was top dog until they banned the AR15, now the Mini is an also ran. Have about 500 rounds through it and have never had any light strike issue. Meanwhile, the folks at Ruger said, “Wait a second, this only holds five rounds. Same ammo with 25 rounds fired at 30 feet. Having got a new Ruger SP 101 357 Mag the trigger in both single and double action was very gritty. When introducing my wife to guns (after introducing myself a few scant years prior) she liked the Ruger LCR the best if all my handguns– and they run the gambit– because there is only one thing to remember; the trigger. I am told it is possible to wear one out, but despite years of attempting to do so, I have been entirely unsuccessful. Chambering not chamfering. I had him do the action job (minus porting), hard chrome and custom Bolivian Rosewood grips...she was beautiful. Practical sight radius is not there. I own semi’s and revolvers and just naturally prefer a revolver. I also carry a little LCP .380 and though it is light and small enough to pocket carry - I know I must really do my part to stop anyone and I never feel the confidence a .357 provides.So, to me, here it is: too heavy to carry .357 - but great stopper vs LCP easy-carry but a mousegun. http://www.ruger.com/products/sp101DE/specSheets/5774.html. Hiking in hog or cougar country it's loaded with hollow points or JSPs. Do bastard files do the same thing? It will get the job done. If you want to kick the SP101’s sight picture up a notch, check out the Wiley Clapp edition: Have a security six and even the heaviest buffalo bore fails to make it an unpleasant shooter. Aim small, miss small. Moral of the the story: don’t buy scandium and other light weight alloy revolvers, you won’t want to shoot them and they aren’t designed for regular training and use. FYI, Jack Bauer did carry a 5-shot snub in Season 2 of 24: http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/24_-_Season_2#Smith_.26_Wesson_Model_60. All you need is about five gallons of elbow grease to turn this Amish mule into a Budweiser Clydesdale. The above target shows 5 rounds of Winchester PDX 1 Defender +P 130 Bonded Jacketed Hollow Point ammo fired at 21 feet. The “I can’t DO that” attitude comes on for reasons not always connected to physical capabilities. I love the grip as well. Us… not so much. I’ve done it and it’s a lot easier than swapping out springs (which I have also done, so I have a frame of reference). My fifty years of revolver/pistol shooting has proven a 99.9999% need for sight proficiency with any hand gun – with barrels from 2″ to 6″ plus. I have seen dear shot with 357 mag and 44 mag and there is no comparison. In the 327 version, recoil is nothing like the 357 Magnum. Ruger is renowned for their extremely robust revolvers. That said, there’s something wrong with QA when a gun can go out that gets a jammed cylinder after a single shot. the frame where the pawl drags both top and bottom. I say even a .380 beats no gun at all. Or maybe it’s just so heavy it absorbs the recoil well. A G17/19 is second. However, if you are looking to practice firing a heavy trigger pull revolver, the Ruger – SP101 22LR can be a great choice as it is fairly accurate and has a comfortable grip. Note the orientation of the hammer strut so you don't put it in backward during reassembly. And I can tell you that pretty much all women, if instructed properly, can operate slides on full-size nines. Among the fixes is replacing the hammer spring. What 357 Magnum or 38+P revolver has the lowest DA trigger pull? An attempt to get magnum performance in a cops holster without the weight. hammer spring, and a new trigger return spring to lighten that pull up a bit. I need an all steel revolver with a 3 inch barrel, a front night sight, a trigger pull of about 9 to 10 pounds and hand filling grips. If we had a dollar for every lady who’d insisted she couldn’t operate the M&P and then went on to a sterling performance with it under my parther’s gimlet eye and hand-on teaching, we’d have lots of dollars. The trigger pull in double-action mode is smooth, and the single-action pull crisp. Preferably one with studded spikes on the outside. Improving the trigger pull involves disassembling the revolver, sanding / polishing surfaces, installing shims, and replacing factory springs with lighter springs. This requires a lot of practice. With a revolver, your shots are more critical, as your ammo count is less. With the heaviest Buffalo Bore high-performance ammunition, the extraction was a bit sticky, but not enough so as to present a problem. It’s got a matte finish that looks functional but not shiny. This makes controlling magnum rounds extremely easy. I enjoyed your review. For instance when I first got my wife into shooting I caught her forgetting to remove the magazine before checking the chamber (thereby loading a round into the chamber while believing the chamber was empty). If the hand is not making full contact if means there will be gaps between the hand and grip at various points. BTW, my walk in the woods carry is a S&W 686 (no dash) with 6″ barrel. I was bit by a copperhead last year and will carry this pistol loaded with that every minute that I leave my house and walk into the woods. I read the whole thing and am still looking for the review. The low-profile front sight of the SP101 facilitates drawing the sidearm from a concealed carry holster or pocket without snagging. My other gun is a Ruger LCRx 38 Spl +P with 3″ barrel. As far as I know the J frames are still not built to take a steady diet of full power .357s like the SP so 2 extra ounces and a 1/8th inch of extra barrel doesn’t seem like something that was primarily designed as a club. What the Ruger offers in indestructibility and price, Smith and Wesson make up for in trigger refinement, weight reduction, and overall finish. I had the pleasure of owning/shooting some good revolvers in my lifetime: Colt “Officers Model Match .38”, Smith & Wesson Combat Masterpiece .38, Smith “J” (old model) .38. What you going to do with your laser in bright sunlight, when you can’t see the dot. Do you trust your semi-auto to do the same? Yep, love my little SP101. In the city .38 snubby ammo from Hornady. Just helicopter that make shift mace around your head a few times and you can land a real eye opener onto the noggin of any would-be sexual offender. Too bulky. S&W is different. I like the SP101 but mine has been infuriating to say the least. Once they take that first shot you know you’ve at least opened their mind a little. At that distance, sight accuracy becomes a moot point because point shooting is more than likely what will be happening in such a high stress scenario. But did I need so send it to Gemini Customs for their $459.00 treatment? You going to tell the b ad guy ohh wait a minute so I can find my laser on you. I still have the Colt and the “J” frame. I now have the SP101 2.25″ external hammer. I know that the old. Fun to shoot but too bulky and heavy compared to any semi or sub compact at half thecweight and twice the capacity. (8 lbs Main spring) I loved the model 19 but it needed to be treated properly. Cocking the hammer for single-action shots dropped the pull weight … These are pretty typical changes that can be made to just about any pistol. I think you meant 21 feet. The 101’s rugged good looks and durable performance with .357 defense loads places it high among the best snubbies ever developed. What brand are the wood grips on the 3in? Bond Arms Texas Defender. I shoot any semi-auto better than a snubby(had a Taurus85). We’re here to talk about a real American battle axe of a revolver, the Ruger SP101. Either way, it’s very easy to shoot the SP101. You will not want to put this pistol down now that it is completely free of any sharp edges or rough textures. Additionally they fit my hand very well with no gaps between hand and grip and the textured synthetic grips have a better "feel" to them than the standard Ruger grips. Better late than never. If you really want a mirror like finish, it will take even longer. Even with full power 180s my buddy's SP101 was more pleasant to shoot than my long-suffering S&W M49 Bodyguard is with 158 gr +P. An “ultralight” in .38. They replaced that one entirely. I tried Hogue grips: too bulky. Except for the hammer spring change; 14lb. To me, Ruger makes the best revolvers. Ruger LCR only way to go in small revolver–these are soft shooting guns–my 5’2″, 120# niece absolutely loves firing AE 158 gr JSP .357’s from my LCR .357–a J (junk in my opinion) frame S&W IS a terrible gun to shoot–she also connects every shot, no misses. Last month I bought a brand new blue SP101 .357, and one of my cylinder chambers was bored too small also. Although the SP101's trigger is smooth it's still relatively heavy if you're used to a lighter semi-auto pistol trigger pull. We all need the practice more than we need bling. Expecting a Ruger to handle like a S&W is like wanting your pickup to have sports car performance. It was S&W that caved to the Clinton Administration, not Ruger–I have a ton of Rugers & not one has ever needed any work on it. Although, in a gun this small, I much prefer .38 Special rounds over .357. I believe Jeff Cooper observed the snubbie was an experts gun. The SP101 functioned perfectly, firing every cartridge. All have their place in filling my revolver “needs”. I looked at the sp and gp at Bass Pro Friday. I will buy one again. There are times when women need to defend themselves from terrible people who want to do terrible things to them. Life is “subjective” and for me I cannot imagine a scenario (where I live at least, major urban City) whereby a five shot revolver would be assigned my primary CCW or even HD Gun…Again, that’s me so YMMV…I often equate “Capacity” with car or health insurance in that you most likely will never need it (approaching my late 40’s so that might change…) but will rest better knowing that “it’s there” if and when needed…So I will stick with even a sub-compact semi that server up 10+ or double that with just 1 extra magazine…to translate such into a revolver setup I would need the full weight of the Ruger with 3 additional speed loaders. The result is an extremely solid pistol that seems to use some ancient magic (discovered in Tutankhamen’s tomb, placed there by aliens) to harness the recoil energy of the .357 Magnum round and put it back into the propelled projectile. There’s enough room in the world for both types, people and pistols. Send me an email, PubliusS (anyone, actually) and I’ll be glad to share the little book I wrote called “I Am NOT A Victim.” The first chapter is the story of the man I had to shoot to save my life. In both cases cleaning the front of the cylinder and the forcing cone would ‘solve’ the issue temporarily. I conceal carry. I went from an 8 lbs trigger spring to a 9 lbs spring and am very pleased. Carry After a small adjustment to the sight, my groupings were amazingly small/tight at 25 feet, then at 10 meters and finally at 15 meters… outdid my Browning. Kits include the various springs necessary to assure reliable function, smooth operation, consistency, and long life. The answer to my needs comes in the Ruger SP101. Revolvers aren’t in the mainstream and people don’t learn how to maintain them properly anymore. This weapon is strictly for defense purposes only, yes you have to practice with it but sorry guys if you are hand gun hunting with less than a 44 on white tail or bigger then you need schooling. Sturm, Ruger & Co., Inc. is one of the nation's leading manufacturers of rugged, reliable firearms for the commercial sporting market. The trigger pull on my SP101 even after replacing the springs is still fairly heavy. Been a solid revolver guy ever since. you can still feel where the trigger reset engages on the release of the trigger but isn’t offensive at all. Easy does it, though. Smooth the trigger up by shooting as often and as many rounds as you can. I've also had very good luck with bulk ammo from Freedom Munitions.While porting can be detrimental if you have the gun pressed to your body, I'm not sure it will be such an issue at night compared to the SP101 in .357, as that beast has a tendency to have quite a bright muzzle flash anyway, especially when firing 158 grain ammo.I definitely wouldn't pick one over the other to own, I would choose both. Fortunately for me the gunsmiths at Bill's Gun Shop in Robbinsdale, MN are trigger pull experts. Nice review though. Even with my “J” frame I can easily hit center mass with a rapidly acquired sight picture at 25 yards. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. An ultra short barrel. 5 rounds of Hornady Critical Defense 110 Grain +P FTX bullet at 21 feet. But getting them to get going with the DA trigger is always harder. Can’t do that with the revolver because my hand is just too small and the trigger pull is just too much to keep it consistently on target. 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